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03 April 2011 @ 12:02 pm
Potter Re-Read  
hey kids, i have a Lauryn Hill concert tonight so you get this early. also, I STILL HAVEN'T FINISHED CoS! ugh this book is a chore... CAN I READ PRISONER OF AZKABAN ALREADY?? IT IS MY SECOND MOST FAVOURITE. So you'll probably get another one of these inane ramblings later on in the week... if i am not dead by then.

When the boys finally get to school and Snape busts them Harry is given the impression that he can READ MINDS!!! HELLO LITTLE SEED OF AN IDEA THAT BECAME A PLOT POINT AND CHARACTER TRAIT!!! You know sometimes I love Rowling sometimes I don't. YAY!IDEAS! BOO!EXECUTION! Such is life. *sigh*



I found fascinating Dumbledore's quiet disappointment in Harry's actions and rash decision to use the Anglia instead of owling. That hushed let down gives Harry more shame than one of bluster and air. The latter he'd be accustomed to, hello Vernon Dursley, so the former cuts deeper leaving an impression on the young boy's emotional development. On the converse of that McG is full of sarcasm and wit: 'I didn't think,' said Harry. 'That much is obvious.' - Minerva HBIC Animagus Witch of the Awesomeness McGonagall She's also, obviously fond of Harry. When he interrupts with house points shouldn't be deducted because of his behaviour (HOW MUCH DO I LOVE THE BOY WILLING TO OWN HIS CONSEQUENCE?!?!? OMG THIS BOY SOMETIMES! ILOVEHIMSFM) she almost smiles and feeds them because they missed the feast. D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! I seriously need to find a fic where this woman adopts Harry and grooms him to be the bestest wizard that ever wizzed.



Also, I really thought it was sweet of Ron wanting to see Ginny get sorted. D'AAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! THESE KIDS SOMETIMES!!! I also think Ron cares about Ginny much more than Percy does. Percy may be all about keeping up reputations and appearances but Ron just wants to know if she's doing okay... not that he's any good at taking care of her or noticing things but at least he's thinking of her.



Bee tee dub, Lockhart wants harmony between all magic and non-magic peoples. HARMONY.



I'm just being silly. Never mind this point. Moving along...

Colin is a stalker.

Mudblood. Book!Hermione has no idea and is clueless to what this means and seems nonchalant about this issue and the bigger ramifications it has upon her as a person in the wizarding world. With Movie!Hermione IT. IS. A. PILLAR. OF HER IDENTITY IN THIS WORLD. I may prefer Movie!Hermione in this respect. Movie!Wizarding!World is like fix it fic sometimes. I think the movies give Hermione a voice... maybe more of an opportunity to have a voice. IDK, I have to think this Hermione situation out s'more because I tend to put her on this pedestal for some reason... Why? I. do. not. know. but, to see her knocked off of it is FANTABULOUS and makes me love her even more especially if it highlights the cracks in her veneer/flaws/damage/whateverall because those kinds of characters are the kinds I love the most.

Fer instance, when the kids go to Nick's Death Day party and Moaning Myrtle is there Hermione is not very nice to her. She attempts to backpedal with 'it's kind of hard to pee when you have someone wailing next to you.' and again in OotP when she kind of insults Luna by succumbing to the use of a derogatory nickname for her. Also, there's shenanigans of cursing somebody in OotP but I totally don't remember that and am looking forward to see more of this kind of behaviour from her if only to have my view of her be shattered. Another fer instance: Hermione must persuade the boys to go ahead with the Polyjuice plan and this along with finding breaking the rules in OotP is exciting, convinces me that she'd totally have an affair.

Normally I see characters a bit clearer through the shipping lens (not just 'shipping' but how this character works, or doesn't, with this other character and why. what each individual brings to the table and allows to be used in relation to another being. all very fascinating to me), but with Hermione, she tends to get lost as an individual through my preference. I KNOW. I tend to only see her in relation to Harry, what she means to Harry, how everything of her is allowed to be devoted to Harry so her WHO and WHY tends to get pushed to the side even though I see them more as equals and partners. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS AND I MUST FIGURE THIS PUZZLE OUT. Mayhaps this contributes to why she is my favourite. I can't get a handle on her. Something else that contributes to this identity factor is the weak characterisation... or maybe the lack of consistent characterisation of this girl makes me go WHO IS THIS PERSON? Must. Know. More.



In a round about way, because this has turned into an all about 'how people fit together' post, The Trio and Why It Works. At this point when they decide they need more information about the Heir of Slytherin they become like detectives in a squad. Passion, curiosity, brains, heart and courage all come together and fit like the Lion, Tin Man and Scarecrow.

'Let me rip you... Let me tear you... Let me kill you...'

That is creeptastic! I think I might love it... This has been used in fic, yes? Somebody point me in that direction.



Fred and George would be fantastic spies. They should be. They have an entire cabinet of mischief devoted to them in Filch's office after all. They spy on the Slytherin Quidditch team, they spy on The Order, they spy on ghosts... They probably are the most awesome spies in somebody's Potter!war!time!fic. Lead me there too!



Speaking of ghosts. When Nick is not accepted to the Head Men Hunt and Harry is invited to the Death Day party what is the purpose of the ghosts in the Potter world? I mean besides the obvious narrative that Harry is comfortable with and a friend to Death.



Also along the line of ghosts: when Harry gets nabbed for wandering the halls and pulled into Filch's office (what a kinky bastard btw with wanting to use manacles and chains on students as punishment; he'd totally get off on that) and Nick is able to convince Peeves to drop the vanishing cabinet. VANISHING CABINET. HELLO, IDEA NUMBER TWO THAT BECAME A PLOT POINT AND DEVICE! I C WHUT U DID THAR JOANNE! Back to Filch, is his being a Squib supposed to garner sympathy for him? Because I just think he's a disgruntled old man and he's one of those people that will never find happiness or be happy. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



Harry Potter and That Time He Thought He Was Going To Be Expelled. A drinking game.

 
 
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Intrepid Pirate and Questionable Cartoonistkit_a_licious on April 3rd, 2011 10:11 pm (UTC)
What Lauryn Hill concert? When did this happen? I thought she was living under a rock!
Sunny: Music Bjorksunny_serenity on April 3rd, 2011 10:37 pm (UTC)
Heh, yeah I only found out about it on Wednesday. It's @ the Waterfront tonight @ 8 if you & Goo are interested in going.
borg_princess: hermione-ponderborg_princess on April 4th, 2011 07:58 am (UTC)
AGAIN, OUR OPINIONS VASTLY DIFFER.

I think I'm just perverse that way. Whichever character JKR hates on, I will inevitably find something sympathetic about them and rant about how they do not deserve their treatment.

Btw, something I learned today, originally CoS and HBP were meant to be the same book? Or elements in HBP were intended to be in CoS? Which is why there's so many callbacks to CoS when we got to HBP. So. Interesting. Hmm.

The boys and their car escapade pisses me off a lot. Come on, Ron's parents were RIGHT THERE. If they missed the train, they could apparate them! Or Floo them! (IDK why this isn't SOP instead of a train that must be hell to conceal from Muggles) ANYTHING OTHER THAN VIOLATE THE STATUTE OF SECRECY, ARGH. Good thing Umbridgge wasn't in this book, she'd've had Harry clapped up in Azkaban in a heartbeat.

I also think Ron cares about Ginny much more than Percy does. Percy may be all about keeping up reputations and appearances but Ron just wants to know if she's doing okay

DISAGREEEE. Not that Ron doesn't care about Ginny, but that Percy cares less. Considering he's the one that's worrying about Ginny all year long, that he notices something's wrong with her and is concerned enough to keep checking on her (which becomes 'oh, annoying Percy is annoying' *eyeroll*), that he's the one who got the twins to stop scaring her and giving her nightmares (considering how much they torment him, it says a lot that he's able to make them back down because he's that fierce about her well-being) and just...IDK, I've always thought Percy was more awesome than people gave him credit for. Just 'coz he wanted to get a good job and didn't worship Dumbledore, he got crapped on by fandom. *sighs*

Though it doesn't help his creator hates him. Seriously, wtf is with the negative way she portrays him and has people react to him?

Dumbledore and Ludo Bagman stood beaming at Harry and Ron from the bank as they swam nearer, but Percy, who looked very white and somehow much younger than usual, came splashing out to meet them.

Percy seized Ron and was dragging him back to the bank ("Gerroff, Percy, I'm all right!"); Dumbledore and Bagman were pulling Harry upright; Fleur had broken free of Madame Maxime and was hugging her sister.

Harry's feeling of stupidity was growing. Now he was out of the water, it seemed perfectly clear that Dumbledores safety precautions wouldn't have permitted the death of a hostage just because their champion hadn't turned up.

The judges went into a huddle. Madam Pomfrey had gone to rescue Ron from
Percy's clutches...


First of all, HATE HATE HATE the favoritism. Why should Harry get extra marks? It's not to test nobility or mettle or strength of character! The test was to retrive their person and make it back first, and I get so annoyed at all the favoritism.

Second, WTF, PERCY IS BEING A CONCERNED AND CARING BROTHER AND HE'S GETTING PUT DOWN. Look at the way JKR runs him down for his show of emotion- Ron's impatient with him and rejects his help, and Poppy has to free him from Percy's clutches. THE HELL? It's like JKR had planned the split in OotP and so she had Ron subconsciously rejecting his brother in advance, ugh. Poor Percy.

ETA. Harry, you are not being an idiot, just blinded by your love of Dumbles. This is the man who deliberately lured Quirrel!Mort into a school where innocent kids were around so he could set a trap for him. The dude who put Hermione and Harry into the path of Dementors in third year. Who never imposed any limits on Harry and let him blunder into danger as a learning exercise and who let Draco cannonball around all of sixth year with his reckless murder plots intead of stopping him, even when two kids nearly died. HATE.

Edited at 2011-04-04 08:01 am (UTC)
Sunny: HP noisesunny_serenity on April 7th, 2011 08:15 am (UTC)
I LOVE WHEN THAT HAPPENS!!! Ya know why? Cos I like when people can make me see things from another POV and, more often than not, I can totally see where you're coming from and it is a fantabulous place of grey! MAH FAVE!

Oh, ew, well that explains why I dislike CoS & HBP on an equal level... >.>

You are right, I think, in giving Percy the benefit of looking out for Ginny's well being. But then later on, right when Ginny's about to confide in Ron and Harry he brushes it off, and probably contributing to the 'kidnap' of Ginny by effectively making her confession inconsequential by making it all about how Ginny saw him doing something not becoming of a prefect. For me, his personality strikes too closely to Molly so my automatic dislike for her may be transferring to the son most like her. But I also think for all he may genuinely care about his siblings, most of his concern ends up being about how it affects him... maybe that's just a Weasley thing though... IDK how I'm supposed to feel about them as a whole anymore. I mean, there are certain things about them collectively that I enjoy, but majority of the time I sit back asking HOW ARE YOU ALL RELATED??? I blame Joanne for her lack of consistent and steady character arc(ing)s.

Err, is that GoF you're quoting? or OotP? I is a slow reader cos LIFE IS GETTING IN THE WAY OF THINGS... also, I don't remember much of anything from my first go 'round with the text... sorry. But I can see how thatfavourtism would be a thorn in the side. SERIOUSLY. The boy gets special treatment and it's totally not fair, however, Harry does become aware of this and I think (once again, rusty on the memory) attempts to thwart it. His blind devotion to Anything Dumby Sais Is LAW has to do with his view askew about what it means to care for someone. Dumbles, was the first male figure in the Loving Father capacity, so how else is the kid supposed to feel/react to The Great Wizard Dumbledore? If you think about it, most kids go through the realisation that their parents are not perfect nor do they always make the best choices for those under their purview. They are fallible. For some, that realisation comes later and at the most inopportune time. For Harry, it is only after Dumbledore is dead and he feels utterly alone that he begins to piece this together. The boy has developmental. delay.

From the Adults Who Favour Harry (Dumbledore especially), a lot of that treatment, IMO, stems from a need to groom Harry into a weapon. He is often treated as their trump card, secret weapon, the fifth element, if you will. So in Albus' brain, the boy must be more than a warrior, more than a soldier and holy crap what is this man thinking involving a young child in this Hail Mary strategy? Most of the culpability in regards to the favourtism Harry garners must be accounted for by the old man's decisions. In converse of that, McG might have something to say against this, which she does make known her displeasure, yet she yields to Dumbledore's judgment. Just because she's submissive does not mean she likes it and, maybe in her own little way, she makes exception for Harry in spite of this plan. I am vaguely remembering much fighting in OotP about this but mostly basing this on her unwillingness to leave Harry with the Dursley's in PS. Once again, you have the dynamic of two different parenting styles placed in the framework of school/professors to serve the purpose of the author's plot.
borg_princess: hermione-quillborg_princess on April 4th, 2011 08:18 am (UTC)
is his being a Squib supposed to garner sympathy for him? Because I just think he's a disgruntled old man and he's one of those people that will never find happiness or be happy

I feel bad for him. Harry was out of line to go through his private correspondence, seriously, dude, way to invade his privacy. I guess this is consistent with his behavior in OotP, with spying on Snape's personal memories. Sometimes I really don't like this kid. It may be a realistic flaw, but...argh.

Thing is, people judge Filch for being unpleasant. Yes, he's nasty and snarly and mentions chains and such, but it's not like he's ever going to follow through. It's not like the smallest firstie couldn't overpower him, either physically or magically. It's bluster. He daydreams about kicking their asses, and tbh, I don't think there are teachers out there who haven't thought the same thing. And I think Dumbles is a horrible person for hiring Filch as a cleaner- nice of him to give the old, wheezy, creaking man a job of scrubbing and sweeping and mopping for hours what would only take two seconds for them to magically erase. No wonder Filch hates the students, it takes so much effort for him to do his job and they clatter across the floors and track more mud in and don't have the decency to use their wands to get rid of it when it would be so easy.

Also, I find it amusing how Hermione's got this rep as a law-abiding goody-two-shoes! She's the one who lies in PS/SS when it doesn't help the boys at all, but for some reason, they're grateful? Her lie made it look worse! And she actively gets them involved in breaking rules here in CoS, they're reluctant, but she persuades them. In OotP, she actually gets Harry in trouble on two occasions for something she instigated/thought up!
Sunny: HP Hermionesunny_serenity on April 7th, 2011 08:28 am (UTC)
In total agreement with the snooping in the correspondence is crossing a line and again, gosh I sound like a broken record, this boy is RETARDED when it comes to morality/sound decision making. I am not by any means defending his action or justifying it but, the boy is rash because of his instincts, which, has served him well thus far so why would he choose to go about things differently? I say this cos parts of this boy's personality reminds me of a few people in my life. I love them but, OI! Y U DO STUPID THINGS FOR?

AHAHAHAHAHA! OMG, I never really thought about how difficult it is for Filch to do his job!

HERMIONE IS THE WORST LAW BREAKER THERE IS!!! How is this girl not a lawyer??? She can find a loophole in the tightest of regulations and that directly contributes to my personal canon of she would totally have an affair with Harry. Suck it canon!
Hopeful Romantic: shinyhoperomantic on April 4th, 2011 08:48 am (UTC)
I hope that you had fun at your concert.
Sunnysunny_serenity on April 7th, 2011 07:03 am (UTC)
Ah, I ended up not going cos we couldn't get tickets. S'okay though cos I heard she didn't get on stage til 11ish and finished around 1:30 and oi, I had to get up early the next day anyway, so.