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14 April 2011 @ 08:00 pm
let's get something straight...  
just because i ship H/Hr does not mean i hate Ron. why is this a common misconception? i feel like i should stamp I LOVE RONALD WEASLEY or WEASLEY IS MY KING all over everything i walk on and every site i visit and every shirt i wear.

what is wrong with people?
 
 
 
borg_princessborg_princess on April 15th, 2011 09:32 am (UTC)
Awww. *pets* Have idiot fans been giving you a hard time? Yeah, I've grown to love Ron, in fact, he trumps Hermione in my book at times, which is a shocking thing for a hardcore Hermione fan to say, but yeah. He can be an idiot, too, but I criticize not to be malicious!
Sunny: HP epic bromance is bromanticsunny_serenity on April 19th, 2011 12:58 am (UTC)
There was just so much wank on tumblr about Harry being a 'cockblock' and then railing against someone who said Ron wasn't their fave, not that they HATED HIM but that he wasn't their fave. YOU MUST NOT SPEAKETH AGAINST THE WEASLEY KING FOR YOU WILL BE DRAWN AND QUARTER DECAPITATED AND SENT TO THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH!!! It's like you're not allowed to have an opinion contrary to popular belief. Is it so hard to accept that I criticise it BECAUSE I love it so much? GOD. DAMN. CALM. YER. TITS. I swear his fanbase is part of the reason it took so long for me to love him. *sigh* Can we just not? Please? *headeverything* *eyeroll*
borg_princessborg_princess on April 19th, 2011 06:02 am (UTC)
OMG, that annoys the hell out of me. I've come across that before from R/Hr fans, 'damn Harry, why does he have to ruin their moment? What a douche', and I'm like, HOLD THE FRAK UP, he was their BFF years before there was any romantic stuff going on (in fact, there still ISN'T at this point), and they both love him and HE DESERVES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE HUG, DAMN IT, STFU, YOU MORONS. Ugh.

railing against someone who said Ron wasn't their fave, not that they HATED HIM but that he wasn't their fave

O. M. G. Fans are seriously so screwed up sometimes. I can't even. UGH.

I swear his fanbase is part of the reason it took so long for me to love him

LOL. Well, I hated him 'coz he made Hermione cry and was such a jerk, but now I've come to see she's equally insensitive and hurtful to him at times and they both treat each other like crap. But the movies have done a lot to make me like him! Rupert Grint just made Ron so endearing to me!
Sunnysunny_serenity on April 22nd, 2011 04:00 am (UTC)
Ugh, it is rife on my dash rite nao and WTF? It's at the point when they're under the bridge and Harry's on watch and he looks back to Hermione tending to Ron's wound, you know that part right? And just. GAH. THAT SCENE IS ABOUT SO MANY THINGS!!! *headdesk* Just. Stop. No. I HATE THIS FANDOM.

Well, yeah I hated him for all that stuff when I first read them EONS ago cos OI is this boy a right stupid asshole sometimes... but Hermione can be like that too so then I was WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT CONTENTION IN YOUR LIFE??? Must. Ship. Her. With. Harry. Because it's healthier for all three of them... but we all know how that ended. *shrug*
borg_princess: hermione-srslyborg_princess on April 22nd, 2011 05:13 am (UTC)
While I was googling, I came across this:



I remember some friends telling me they thought Harry and Hermione would hook up because in this scene they hug while Ron and Hermione don’t. and I used to say to them “UGH, YOU REALLY DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT SCENE, DO YOU?” Ron and Hermione don’t hug because they know there’s something there, there’s tension. So young and so in love already without even knowing it. OTP OF ALL OTPs.

From here.

First of all, I find it kind of weird to be shipping little kids. I mean, they're so tiny, putting sexual tension into that just makes me... O.o

Second, it's like saying they're in love makes everything okay? It excuses the frankly shitty way they treat each other and the lack of caring for one another's feelings.

I hate Dumbledore. But he has a quote somewhere that is so applicable- 'the trouble is, humans do have a knack of choosing precisely those things that are worst for them.'

That is entirely R/Hr. I'm not disputing she wants Ron . That they are in love. But I'm saying that it's not healthy and they'd make each other miserable on a regular basis. Sometimes, love just isn't enough.

Gosh, can you imagine bringing kids into it? When they fight and then don't talk to each other for months? Yeah, that's going to be a great environment for child-rearing. *eyeroll*

Also, I hate the way the 'Harry and Hermione are comfortable with each other, ergo, they have no interest in one another' argument. Because one must frequently fight and hurl nasty insults and be rampantly jealous and take up with other people in order to provoke a reaction before it can be regarded as 'love'. Ugh. No, thanks, I'd rather the guy that's my best friend, who doesn't hurt me on purpose, who doesn't belittle my interests or hook up with randoms to get my attention.

Edited at 2011-04-22 05:14 am (UTC)
Sunny: HP closersunny_serenity on April 24th, 2011 08:06 pm (UTC)
*eyeroll* Harry Potter and the Uncomfortable Oversexualisation of Minors.

Love is not about excusing horrid behaviour. On both their parts. Ron incites the defencive nature in Hermione by bullying and teasing, which, makes her tear him down cos quid pro quo, right? In her brain it's fair treatment that he deserves if he thinks so lowly of her. I agree because while yes, it may be love, it can't be happy. HAS PARENTS AS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THIS VERY SAME DYNAMIC THAT COMPLETELY EXPLAINS WHY I DON'T SHIP THE MOST PERFECT COUPLE TO EVAR EVER. WHY ARE YOU TOGETHER??? I think this makes me Rose... BUT THAT BITCH HAS HOGWARTS TO ESCAPE TO NINE MONTHS OF THE YEAR. Jealous.

Also, I hate the way the 'Harry and Hermione are comfortable with each other, ergo, they have no interest in one another' argument. Because one must frequently fight and hurl nasty insults and be rampantly jealous and take up with other people in order to provoke a reaction before it can be regarded as 'love'. Ugh. No, thanks, I'd rather the guy that's my best friend, who doesn't hurt me on purpose, who doesn't belittle my interests or hook up with randoms to get my attention.

I'm just gonna leave this here.
Avid Beader: r/hr tension no attractionavidbeader on April 15th, 2011 09:37 am (UTC)
Because there are enough of us that do hate the way Rowling didn't develop him well, or love Hermione so much that we hate how Ron treats her, or love Harry so much that we hate how Ron abandoned him twice. I can see the potential in him, but Rowling didn't give him much to do beyond eat with bad manners and look for shortcuts in doing anything he found hard but didn't care about enough to do well.

And it's much easier for anti H/Hr shippers to attack you for "hating" Ron than to justify their own ship well.
Sunny: HP Trelawnysunny_serenity on April 19th, 2011 01:13 am (UTC)
I totally agree with the all three of those reasons. He had no control over that. Place this blame where it belongs, with Joanne. While this may not be the boy's fault, his rabid fanbase is what turned me off for so long because wow. Just wow. There is no room for complexity or shades of grey. It is YOU LOVE ALL OF HIM OR NOT AT ALL and Murgatroid forbid you're a H/Hr shipper cos that automatically means you hate him for the convenience of your ship. W.O.W. JUST. WOW.

Overall, I see where he belongs and where he was supposed to go. Part of the reason I love him is because he didn't get a fair shake on the development end... truth be told not many of her characters did. He's a rascal, I love that, he's also a lazy asshole at times and I don't love that, but it contributes to my reasons for having such conflicting feelings.
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Sunny: Life Reese stupidsunny_serenity on April 19th, 2011 01:16 am (UTC)
This fandom is WHACK. The wiggidy type. And wow, where is the sense and reason? Where is that fanbase? Oh hey, look, I found them in the H/Hr camp! WE ARE ALL EVOL EVOL BEINGS!!! For a story whose message was all about acceptance and breaking down prejudice and preconception this fanbase is completely missing the point. Bad form fandom. Bad form.
ladysophiekitty: Morgana fursladysophiekitty on April 15th, 2011 03:15 pm (UTC)
Not really a Ron fan, but know what I hate?

WHEN PEOPLE ASSUME YOU HATE A CHARACTER JUST BECAUSE THEY GET IN THE WAY OF MY SHIP. Not true. I have my petty moments, but for the most part, I (dis)like a character for who they are and what they bring rather than who they're doing. I liked Cam when she was seeing Booth, I like River Song even though I'm a HUGE Doctor/Rose shipper, and I'm sure there are others.
Sunny: SMV Chloe make with the 'splainysunny_serenity on April 19th, 2011 01:18 am (UTC)
THIS SO MUCH THOUGH. 'WOW', is pretty much my new typical response to this fandom. CAM IS MY FAVE. RIVER SONG IS MY FAVE. I've always been on the 'wrong' sides of fandom. It's cos I am contrary and a hipster. *sarcasm sign*
Gwenhwyfar: Sera Myu-Vampire!Neptunegwenhwyfar1984 on April 15th, 2011 05:35 pm (UTC)
*points* Ron hater!! Jo Rowling hater!!!

Seriously though...ignore them.
Sunny: SCC bullshitsunny_serenity on April 19th, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
ROFLMAO!!! Lady, I love you. *GLOMP*

Oh fandom, why do you choose to be so lame? *eyeroll*
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Sunny: HP evil never looked so goodsunny_serenity on April 19th, 2011 01:28 am (UTC)
THANK YOU. THIS. EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID. I disassociate myself with that equally crazy part of the H/Hr contingent. Just. WOW.

GOOD. Stay away Jamie. Stay far far far far away from fandom. Do not pass Go. I don't understand the misconception that you can only love a character because they are immaculate. It's almost like they have to be this perfect being. *cough*edwardcullen*cough* I love flawless characters made from their flaws. Earthy and dirty and grey and full of depth.